And, I do NOT identify as liberal.
Also read: The broken/convoluted uses & definitions of "racist".
Now, I know that the culture of some groups in the east (or anywhere for that matter, of course) that I certainly feel are wrong (mistreating children, involuntary body modification, attacking outsiders, mistreating animals, etc). But, are all westerners are civilized they think?
Let's go back in history. Just like some other places, Europeans had their own fair share of conflict and human and animal rights abuses for hundreds of years.
Fast forward to Christopher Columbus "discovering" the Americas (you can look up on how earlier Europeans came thousands of years before) and European colonialism, as usual, the European colonists had a clean-cut black-white belief that their culture, beliefs and lifestyle was the best. Sometimes, they had some respect for natives and didn't use much force. But often, they forced the Natives to adopt their beliefs and lifestyle (ie with forced religious conversion), or took them away against their will, which is, depending on who's involved and who's doing what, is worse than letting others do as they please as long as, again, they respect the rights of others.
Similar things have happened in the age of Islamic conquest, and now with Islamist militants and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Anyway, I am sure that many agree that forcing people do adopt your beliefs and lifestyle when they're not infringing on the rights of others, taking people and/or making them do work involuntarily, not allowing females to vote or hold political office, and so on and so forth isn't exactly considered civilized.
Also, the way that "Savage" societies are depicted are often very collectivistic and rather rigid. While there are tribes and cultures that are quite violent and can be said to be savage to some extent, of course, this is not always the case.
Let's take the Trobriand islanders, for instance. I've heard that they don't exactly wear a whole lot of clothes, and their views on human sexuality are, let's just say, very taboo in mainstream western culture (I prefer not to voice my views on this yet). And, they were, at least for the most part, in compliance with the declaration of natural rights, even more than their European counterparts whose ancestors, like in many other places, slaughtered each other and enforced collective punishment. An example was how German minorities in Poland were being treated horribly pre-World War 2, and how after Germany invaded to connect east Prussia with the rest of Germany and later take over the rest of western Poland (the Soviet Union got the eastern half), the German military also enforced collective punishment, even again lightly armed to unarmed civilians.
Then again, the word "savage" can mean several types of people, with the ultra-violent being grouped in with those who had taboo belifs but were nonviolent and, for the most part, respectful to the rights of others.
I'm not so sure about most other people, but I think that acting morally and ethically is infinitely more important than dressing modestly and practicing abstinence (before marriage) is combined.
Then again, an irony of American Christian culture is that anything that has to do with sex (even fictional) is very taboo, yet violence is openly accepted (not that I disapprove of violent fiction). To give you an example, I've seen articles where people, say, are criticising sexual fiction, but I have seen almost no one criticising, say, stories about race wars.
A more direct example is seen here. People are using written law more than a personal sense of morals and ethics, see the Seventh Sister (the woman dealing with Ezra) interact with Ezra in a taboo way (as in her taste in guys being seen as strange in the eyes of the audience). But, nobody ever minds that the characters are trying to literally kill each other. I know that it's primarily intended to be a kid's show, but hopefully you'll get the idea.
In case I didn't make it clear earlier, having a 2-way-only system with nothing in between is not accurate, nor is it a good way to classify people. If you think so, then let me ask you this: do you eat the most healthy food for you every time you eat food, or do you eat unhealthy and eat pure junk food like a hog? That should give you can idea of what a false-dichotomy fallacy is like.
Now, to get even deeper, I'll mention how there are hardcore socio-political conservatives out there and how hypocritical their beliefs are. The following will just be examples of the fringe that exist.
(Could also mention the crazy events of World revolution & War stories.)
Onto more extremes.
On one end of the spectrum, there are Ron Paul, StormCloudsGathering and Martin Luther King type of Christians who are not only rational, but also, sincere and respect the rights of others. On the other end, there are the Adolf Hitler type who if not irrational (there is a difference between irrationality and evil; watch "Is Evil Rational?"), are not so sincere and severely disrespect the rights of others. There are also the Fred Phelps-like type of Christians who show views that I just talked about (not that Phelps holds every single one of them) and support the
On one end of the spectrum, there are the Malala Yousafzai type of Muslims who wouldn't hurt a Mosquito, and have full respect for the rights of others (even though she is slightly naive in my opinion becuase of her overly-pacifist views.), plus the Tarek Fatah types who have a clue about what's going on around them. On the other end of the spectrum, there are the Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi types of Muslims who believe in and seek world domination.
On one of of the spectrum, there are the Albert Einstein type of Jews who are moral and ethical. On the other end, there are the Rothschilds type of Jews who seek world domination.
On one end of the spectrum, there are the Ryan Dawson type of Atheists who are rational, sober minded, moral and ethical. On the other end, there are the Josef Stalin type of Atheists who are, if not crazy, are just plain evil. And there are the American "Liberal"
On one end of the spectrum, there are the Mahatma Ghandi type of Hindus who would never use violence, especially outside of the defense of self or others, and promote tolerance for those who respect the rights of others. On the other end, there are the Nathuram Godse type of Hindus that are pretty much the opposite.
On one end of the spectrum there are the Dalai Lama type of Buddhists who are sincere and will only use violence for the defense of self and/or others. On the other end, we have the anti-Muslim Buddhists is Burma/Myanmar who enforce collective punishment and doesn't even give due process to those being persecuted or targeted.
Similarly, there are Muslims who abhor non-related and unmarried males and females being near each other, and believe in involuntary bodily modification (ie circumcision), yet think it is perfectly fine to kill those who don't follow their exact belifs or criticise their belifs and ignore verses 95:4, 4.119, 40:64, 23:14, 27:88, 32:7 and 80:17-19, which restrict body modification.
There are Jews who think that it is unacceptable to even question the Israeli government, yet view themselves as the best people in the world to the extent that all gentiles and other Jews who don't agree enough should be enslaved and celebrate the killing of gentiles.
There are Hindus who think that is is wrong to hang be anywhere near anyone of a different social caste yet think it is perfectly fine or even good to slaughter their daughter for some dubious (or in my view, outright immoral, unethical and astronomically archaic, and outdated) "honor" reason or refusing to take part of involuntary marriages (yes, there are parts of almost every culture that I have no respect for whatsoever. Like I said before, I am not as politically correct as some people perceive me).
And so on and so forth. Hopefully you'll get the idea.
I'd also like to throw in Colion Noir's opinion on the NFL not allowing a Daniel Defense advertisement, which is described as "It's like teaching a 15 year old how to cook meth, pin prostitutes and gamble, but then beat him for picking his nose" (not that I have a problem with the latter 2). Or, if I were to say it, "It's like teaching a teenager how to cook meth, grow non-medicinal drug plants, smuggle dope and steal things, but then beat their teeth out for picking their nose".
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